tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post2826332508222352906..comments2024-01-19T22:01:50.746-05:00Comments on Three Wicked Writers Plus Two: What Would A Man Do?Cari Quinnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06581235338272282124noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-61326130984624237512010-09-01T15:49:45.389-04:002010-09-01T15:49:45.389-04:00Another Tomboy, huh? Good for you. That definitely...Another Tomboy, huh? Good for you. That definitely helps in writing male POV I think. <br /><br />As for "shrank"...well, as a writer I'd never use it in conjunction with any man unless I was using it for a bad guy. But as an editor, I can see instances in which it could be used for a hero. Sometimes it gets pretty complicated in the world of editing.Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-53797050722297253882010-09-01T14:10:18.278-04:002010-09-01T14:10:18.278-04:00Hell, I don't know what a bateau neckline is a...Hell, I don't know what a bateau neckline is and I used to work in fabric stores and I've made gowns, etc. <br /><br />I guess the male POV is a bit easier for me because I used to play tackle football with the guys and I was a tomboy. For one thing, it gave me an opportunity to observe them and their behavior. <br /><br />My heroes must be considered gamma because most of them consider Savanna Kougarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698138048388102279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-3100412212384864292010-08-31T17:43:44.436-04:002010-08-31T17:43:44.436-04:00Thank you, Nicole. Glad you enjoyed it. And congra...Thank you, Nicole. Glad you enjoyed it. And congratulations again on winning the blog revamp. Nat is great to work with and you'll have a blast.Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-8237936179072852462010-08-31T16:50:55.198-04:002010-08-31T16:50:55.198-04:00Wonderful blog post, Tess, I enjoyed it. It's ...Wonderful blog post, Tess, I enjoyed it. It's important to be true to all your characters, male and female.<br /><br />And thanks so much! I'm thrilled to have won the blog revamp and can't wait to see my new blog! :)Nicole Zoltackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07464800543376449290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-90060120544900065072010-08-31T14:50:52.453-04:002010-08-31T14:50:52.453-04:00John...good to see you. Omegas? Hey, their losers....John...good to see you. Omegas? Hey, their losers. They don't figure into romance writing unless they are written in as a sidekick to the Alpha or Beta. And then I'd question their presence as an editor as to whether they further the plot or romance. Might just cut out an Omega. <br /><br />Alphas are the primary heroes in stories. Yes, Gammas would wash the dishes. And while we women in Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-20002940648345953282010-08-31T14:46:26.335-04:002010-08-31T14:46:26.335-04:00Ohhhh, you were a scrappy little thing, huh Pat? l...Ohhhh, you were a scrappy little thing, huh Pat? lol Go get 'em girl!Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-40689796039071470132010-08-31T14:46:05.510-04:002010-08-31T14:46:05.510-04:00Nevealane...I'm so thrilled you found the post...Nevealane...I'm so thrilled you found the post worthwhile. As a writer, I learn something new everyday and I am happy to share my knowledge. <br /><br />Thanks for commenting!Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-89665579639860372432010-08-31T12:11:41.317-04:002010-08-31T12:11:41.317-04:00The man took a swing at him, and Brody dodged the ...<b>The man took a swing at him, and Brody dodged the blow.</b><br /><br />Dodged is the better word. If you used "shrank", that is in no way ALPHA behavior. Beta's may shrink, depending on their treatment by an Alpha, an Omega certainly would "shrink" away from a blow.<br /><br />I just finished up a book where there was an ALPHA male, and while I could identify with him, Starfox Howlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15538783469778078227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-74650883438544373332010-08-31T11:46:38.584-04:002010-08-31T11:46:38.584-04:00After I wrote that I got to thinking and I realize...After I wrote that I got to thinking and I realized I've done it a few times. LOL. In public school, maybe Grade 2 or 3, I got into some schoolyard fight with a boy. We were sent to the Principal's office and my mother came. When she asked me why I shrugged and said I dunno. I was a major tomboy as a kid. Still am in some ways, I guess. LOLPat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08824114343214016153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-88184133430495694192010-08-31T11:43:56.881-04:002010-08-31T11:43:56.881-04:00I didn't know there was a Gamma male! I do lo...I didn't know there was a Gamma male! I do love the examples that you give. It is hard enough just blogging about the subject matter of the male POV, but you have definitely carved out definitions that will stick with even a novice writer. <br /><br />Great post again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-30965568708691395252010-08-31T05:25:18.399-04:002010-08-31T05:25:18.399-04:00Lisa...I've read your work, hon. I think you d...Lisa...I've read your work, hon. I think you do male POV beautifully. <br /><br />But we can all keep learning. A writer's job is never done in that respect.Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-25294899849084813882010-08-31T05:24:32.736-04:002010-08-31T05:24:32.736-04:00"Ducked" is good, Pat. That would most c..."Ducked" is good, Pat. That would most certainly work. I might have used that if my sentence hadn't started out as "the man lunged for him". lol But I like "ducked" for that sentence too. <br /><br />I never fought with my brother--never been in a fight with a man--thank God, lol--but my sis and I sure went at it as kids and as teenagers. I think she hits like a Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-65000293704299714362010-08-31T01:24:59.537-04:002010-08-31T01:24:59.537-04:00Nice post, Tess. I must be learning because I chos...Nice post, Tess. I must be learning because I chose #2. lol. All the tags are confusing, Alpha, Beta, Gamma...what's a girl to do? :)<br /><br />Seems I tend to write more from the male POV as well. I like digging into a guy's psyche.Lisa Alexander Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14408188538622550449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-82046813352117280562010-08-30T23:48:03.990-04:002010-08-30T23:48:03.990-04:00I would be inclined to say 'he ducked' Men...I would be inclined to say 'he ducked' Men react, they don't think, especially in the middle of a fight. <br /><br />Adrenaline flows. There's no thought. often no pain is felt. (I speak from experience on that -- I got in a fight with a bunch of boy when I was about 12. I didn't stop swinging until my older sister dragged me off them. I never felt a thing until later.<br /><Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08824114343214016153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-72354006243458990172010-08-30T21:27:36.170-04:002010-08-30T21:27:36.170-04:00Yes, Celtic Chick...men see it differently. It isn...Yes, Celtic Chick...men see it differently. It isn't just about the dress for them...it's about the body in it. lol <br /><br />Thank you for the kudos. <br /><br />And you are so right about how men express themselves. Men are most definitely given to bouts of anger when frustrated while we females tend to cry. Thanks for stopping by and commenting, CC.Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-62920721712091329982010-08-30T21:25:56.304-04:002010-08-30T21:25:56.304-04:00I don't think you have too much to worry about...I don't think you have too much to worry about, Anne. I've read your work. lol <br /><br />And what a lovely compliment to know you've saved the post to read again. Thank you. I'll be doing a workshop on POV in general in the coming weeks. I've worked on it some already, but it will require a great deal of detail and I plan to leave no stone unturned. <br /><br />And you'Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-460938732114633082010-08-30T20:49:17.580-04:002010-08-30T20:49:17.580-04:00I thought your excerpt was a good example of male ...I thought your excerpt was a good example of male pov. A man would notice how a dress makes a woman's body look--how it enhances her boobs, etc. <br />One thing I noticed about men is that when they are frustrated, they get angry while a woman would cry. I try to remember that when writing in male pov. <br />Thanks for sharing this.Kelley Heckarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05673342477988998070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-3965035537650938782010-08-30T20:24:44.126-04:002010-08-30T20:24:44.126-04:00I must have some mixed up chromozones..lol..becaus...I must have some mixed up chromozones..lol..because I love writing male POV and actually write it better than the female's. Maybe I was a guy in another life? LOl...<br /><br />I think, Tess, it's because, as you illustrated, men think more basic...well, most do. And I love that pure, simple, basic thought process. It just flows so well.<br /><br />I do think some male characters are moreC. Zampahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08907314323318638669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-75848613347151821182010-08-30T20:00:51.405-04:002010-08-30T20:00:51.405-04:00Guh, male POV will always be an issue with me. Thi...Guh, male POV will always be an issue with me. This is a great post, Tess, and I've just copied and pasted it into a document. I know I'm going to want to read it again in the future. :) <br /><br />One of the things that's difficult to remember--at least for me--is that my writing style will NOT appeal to every reader. Thankfully it does indeed appeal to some. :)Anne Raineyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110446131001665977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-35594230822784628322010-08-30T19:06:25.806-04:002010-08-30T19:06:25.806-04:00Howdy Lex! You are soooo right! Writing male POV C...Howdy Lex! You are soooo right! Writing male POV CAN be a lot of fun. We get to step outside of our panties and grab a jockstrap, develop a swagger, and just generally write our names in the snow with that famous appendage. LOL <br /><br />I've got a first person male POV I'm working on. I love it. I have a partner in that mainstream endeavor (although it WILL be sexy, lol, just not Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-46285812308353716312010-08-30T18:35:51.660-04:002010-08-30T18:35:51.660-04:00Male POV is really hot to read when done right and...Male POV is really hot to read when done right and it can be a lot of fun to write too. I wrote on book totally from the hero's POV and I was amazed at how different the whole story felt. And the notion of using the male POV more when writing het got to me take a class by Dr. Debra Holland at my local RWA chapter. It's on understanding men and boy oh boy does she bust open some myths! Lex Valentinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04913165199017718669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-75972396160157585172010-08-30T18:04:35.877-04:002010-08-30T18:04:35.877-04:00Oh...but it will be a freebie class, Hales. I'...Oh...but it will be a freebie class, Hales. I'm not in the workshop business. I simply try to help clarify a few issues here and there.Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-43742540995095969562010-08-30T18:03:21.757-04:002010-08-30T18:03:21.757-04:00Hiya Hales!
I'm planning on doing a workshop ...Hiya Hales!<br /><br />I'm planning on doing a workshop on POV in general. And I'll get into male vs. female POV when I do that. I sort of made a promise over at Publishing Trove that I would. lol So I've got to keep my promise. I've just got to find the time to do it. Glad you stopped by!Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-83046063161023235392010-08-30T18:02:07.885-04:002010-08-30T18:02:07.885-04:00Thanks, Fiona. Glad you enjoyed the blog. Stop by ...Thanks, Fiona. Glad you enjoyed the blog. Stop by again!Tess MacKallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066240659271231596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927196002363676480.post-62914650381652863162010-08-30T18:01:52.094-04:002010-08-30T18:01:52.094-04:00Great post I remember you bringing male pov up bef...Great post I remember you bringing male pov up before :) You should teach a week long class I'd pay to take it!Haleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08052968394434407915noreply@blogger.com